Comments on: Canon 7D vs the 5d2 – What to do? http://arenacreative.com/blog/photography/photography-tech/canon-7d-vs-the-5d2-what-to-do/ A blog for all things creative. Stock photography, graphic design, inspiration, fine art, the advertising and marketing industry, technologies, photoshop tutorials, the culinary arts, and more. Sat, 04 Feb 2012 22:19:00 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Carl Hahn http://arenacreative.com/blog/photography/photography-tech/canon-7d-vs-the-5d2-what-to-do/comment-page-1/#comment-4029 Carl Hahn Tue, 14 Dec 2010 02:47:49 +0000 http://arenacreative.com/blog/?p=581#comment-4029 Nice comparison between the 7-D and the 5D2. Wait a little longer and a newer and better will come out. One can never get ahead of them.. Nice comparison between the 7-D and the 5D2.
Wait a little longer and a newer and better will come out. One can never get ahead of them..

]]> By: Carl Hahn http://arenacreative.com/blog/photography/photography-tech/canon-7d-vs-the-5d2-what-to-do/comment-page-1/#comment-3630 Carl Hahn Sun, 05 Dec 2010 22:18:05 +0000 http://arenacreative.com/blog/?p=581#comment-3630 Very good information on comparing the two Canon cameras. Very good information on comparing the two Canon cameras.

]]> By: arenacreative http://arenacreative.com/blog/photography/photography-tech/canon-7d-vs-the-5d2-what-to-do/comment-page-1/#comment-1128 arenacreative Tue, 27 Apr 2010 12:49:54 +0000 http://arenacreative.com/blog/?p=581#comment-1128 When you shoot stock photography, the image inspectors are simply looking at 100% view, not downsizing the images or considering the uprezzing of an image in respects to noise. At a pixel peeping level I'm not all that impressed by what I've seen thus far in the 7D. Sure, they might look great when downsized to 10-12mp but why buy an 18mp camera just to have to downsize every shot? That's just a waste, to me - I might as well spend the extra $600 on a 5d2 and be happy with what I see at 100% view. I'm just saying; not everyone cares about prints... noise is not really a major issue unless you're selling stock. Right now with my old 20D I can't even really shoot over ISO 200, unless I want tons of post work, noise removal and downsizing before I submit my final image to the stock agencies. I've used ISO 1600 ISO 3200 images that were grainy as all heck, even scans of film, full page on magazine covers back when I was a full time graphic designer - and the noise wasn't even there, in print at 8 x 10. Poster/billboard sizes, forget it - you're not standing 2 inches when viewing those. They look fine no matter what. I'm sure the 7D is a great camera, but I've opted to pick up a 40D to replace my 20D for now, and then move on to the 5d2. If you care about sports and action, definitely get the 7D for the awesome AF. Or, maybe consider a used 1ds-mkii. When you shoot stock photography, the image inspectors are simply looking at 100% view, not downsizing the images or considering the uprezzing of an image in respects to noise. At a pixel peeping level I’m not all that impressed by what I’ve seen thus far in the 7D. Sure, they might look great when downsized to 10-12mp but why buy an 18mp camera just to have to downsize every shot? That’s just a waste, to me – I might as well spend the extra $600 on a 5d2 and be happy with what I see at 100% view.

I’m just saying; not everyone cares about prints… noise is not really a major issue unless you’re selling stock. Right now with my old 20D I can’t even really shoot over ISO 200, unless I want tons of post work, noise removal and downsizing before I submit my final image to the stock agencies. I’ve used ISO 1600 ISO 3200 images that were grainy as all heck, even scans of film, full page on magazine covers back when I was a full time graphic designer – and the noise wasn’t even there, in print at 8 x 10. Poster/billboard sizes, forget it – you’re not standing 2 inches when viewing those. They look fine no matter what.

I’m sure the 7D is a great camera, but I’ve opted to pick up a 40D to replace my 20D for now, and then move on to the 5d2. If you care about sports and action, definitely get the 7D for the awesome AF. Or, maybe consider a used 1ds-mkii.

]]> By: arenacreative http://arenacreative.com/blog/photography/photography-tech/canon-7d-vs-the-5d2-what-to-do/comment-page-1/#comment-911 arenacreative Thu, 01 Apr 2010 22:19:46 +0000 http://arenacreative.com/blog/?p=581#comment-911 Thank Ian, great review. Loved your take on it. I know the AF and exposure metering, and many other things will blow my 20D out of the water, whether I choose the 7D or the 5D2... but with the 5D2 at least I won't have to worry so much about increasing the noise levels tremendously with RAW tweaks, like I will with the 7D. I hear that the next Lightroom update is supposed to fix all of the noise issues on the 7D, so we'll have to wait and see. I can get a new 5d mark 2 for $2300 right now, and a 7D for about $700-800 less. Still, I think I'm leaning towards the 5Dmk2. Thank Ian, great review. Loved your take on it. I know the AF and exposure metering, and many other things will blow my 20D out of the water, whether I choose the 7D or the 5D2… but with the 5D2 at least I won’t have to worry so much about increasing the noise levels tremendously with RAW tweaks, like I will with the 7D.

I hear that the next Lightroom update is supposed to fix all of the noise issues on the 7D, so we’ll have to wait and see. I can get a new 5d mark 2 for $2300 right now, and a 7D for about $700-800 less. Still, I think I’m leaning towards the 5Dmk2.

]]> By: ian http://arenacreative.com/blog/photography/photography-tech/canon-7d-vs-the-5d2-what-to-do/comment-page-1/#comment-909 ian Thu, 01 Apr 2010 22:05:56 +0000 http://arenacreative.com/blog/?p=581#comment-909 I own a 30D (same sensor as 20D) and a 5DII. They are both great bodies but from different generations. They both have the same pixel density and both perform very similarly in low light. The 5DII produces great images at 6400iso. Easily printable at A3 (especially when using noise ninja). However if you under expose the 30D at 3200iso by one stop, shoot RAW and boost it in the converter to equiv iso6400 the noise levels are very very close when viewed at 100pc. Because there are less pixels the ultimate max print size will obviously be smaller, but my point is............. Inspite of Canons suposed technological improvements to pixel size & micro lens design, the difference in image quallity is negligable. I suspect that the crammed sensor of the 7D will be a slight dissapointment. However the 5DII is great. It might have all the focus points in the middle of the frame, but for moving subjects (Sport and wildlife) you can use the enhanced centre (7) points, have loads of field view to assist with tracking the subject and crop later to get the best composition. For this reason I think the 5DII is a great alrounder. You can shoot 21mp landscapes or portraits, and good low light wildlife and sports with a similar amount of resolution to a 1D3 (when cropped). The AF is obviously not quite as good but it is very usable. I own a 30D (same sensor as 20D) and a 5DII.
They are both great bodies but from different generations.
They both have the same pixel density and both perform very similarly in low light.
The 5DII produces great images at 6400iso. Easily printable at A3 (especially when using noise ninja).
However if you under expose the 30D at 3200iso by one stop, shoot RAW and boost it in the converter to equiv iso6400 the noise levels are very very close when viewed at 100pc.
Because there are less pixels the ultimate max print size will obviously be smaller, but my point is………….
Inspite of Canons suposed technological improvements to pixel size & micro lens design, the difference in image quallity is negligable.
I suspect that the crammed sensor of the 7D will be a slight dissapointment.

However the 5DII is great. It might have all the focus points in the middle of the frame, but for moving subjects (Sport and wildlife) you can use the enhanced centre (7) points, have loads of field view to assist with tracking the subject and crop later to get the best composition.
For this reason I think the 5DII is a great alrounder. You can shoot 21mp landscapes or portraits, and good low light wildlife and sports with a similar amount of resolution to a 1D3 (when cropped).
The AF is obviously not quite as good but it is very usable.

]]> By: arenacreative http://arenacreative.com/blog/photography/photography-tech/canon-7d-vs-the-5d2-what-to-do/comment-page-1/#comment-292 arenacreative Thu, 21 Jan 2010 01:37:09 +0000 http://arenacreative.com/blog/?p=581#comment-292 That's good to hear - Thanks Nicole. I think in time we'll see that the updates for ACR and Lightroom might improve, after all of the testing and feedback is compiled. For now maybe the in camera sharpening settings have to be tweaked in order to get better results. I'm not positive if it matters, if you're shooting RAW, but it might read the defaults from those settings. If I can find enough evidence to justify the $1000 savings over going full frame, I would definitely love to do so. Heck, that's another piece of nice L glass just in the savings over the 5d mark ii. That’s good to hear – Thanks Nicole. I think in time we’ll see that the updates for ACR and Lightroom might improve, after all of the testing and feedback is compiled. For now maybe the in camera sharpening settings have to be tweaked in order to get better results. I’m not positive if it matters, if you’re shooting RAW, but it might read the defaults from those settings. If I can find enough evidence to justify the $1000 savings over going full frame, I would definitely love to do so. Heck, that’s another piece of nice L glass just in the savings over the 5d mark ii.

]]> By: Nicole Young http://arenacreative.com/blog/photography/photography-tech/canon-7d-vs-the-5d2-what-to-do/comment-page-1/#comment-289 Nicole Young Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:19:34 +0000 http://arenacreative.com/blog/?p=581#comment-289 I'm a huge fan of my 7D. I've had a lot of approvals uploading to iStock and haven't had to do any down-sizing because of quality (none of my 7D images have been rejected due to noise or poor quality ... I shoot all of my stuff at ISO 100 for stock, btw). I do agree that ACR and Lightroom could do a better job with the conversions, but it's still superb quality IMO. I’m a huge fan of my 7D. I’ve had a lot of approvals uploading to iStock and haven’t had to do any down-sizing because of quality (none of my 7D images have been rejected due to noise or poor quality … I shoot all of my stuff at ISO 100 for stock, btw). I do agree that ACR and Lightroom could do a better job with the conversions, but it’s still superb quality IMO.

]]> By: Megatron http://arenacreative.com/blog/photography/photography-tech/canon-7d-vs-the-5d2-what-to-do/comment-page-1/#comment-261 Megatron Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:11:51 +0000 http://arenacreative.com/blog/?p=581#comment-261 Boy, that David Rehner reads like a smart individual. ;-) Boy, that David Rehner reads like a smart individual. ;-)

]]> By: arenacreative http://arenacreative.com/blog/photography/photography-tech/canon-7d-vs-the-5d2-what-to-do/comment-page-1/#comment-253 arenacreative Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:03:23 +0000 http://arenacreative.com/blog/?p=581#comment-253 Yeah yeah... :D No thanks, just for the hassle that I'd have to ebay all of my glass and start a new collection. Nothing against Nikon, I've shot a lot with the older D40x back at my last dayjob. Yeah yeah… :D No thanks, just for the hassle that I’d have to ebay all of my glass and start a new collection. Nothing against Nikon, I’ve shot a lot with the older D40x back at my last dayjob.

]]> By: Gracey http://arenacreative.com/blog/photography/photography-tech/canon-7d-vs-the-5d2-what-to-do/comment-page-1/#comment-249 Gracey Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:33:26 +0000 http://arenacreative.com/blog/?p=581#comment-249 What to do? Get a Nikon...of course :) What to do?

Get a Nikon…of course :)

]]> By: Cyril http://arenacreative.com/blog/photography/photography-tech/canon-7d-vs-the-5d2-what-to-do/comment-page-1/#comment-97 Cyril Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:25:04 +0000 http://arenacreative.com/blog/?p=581#comment-97 If it's not Nikon - it's wrong! If it’s not Nikon – it’s wrong!

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